Dark Souls - chatting with Quelaag's sister

Dark Souls on NG+, XBOX 360 version. Chatting with Quelaag's sister with the help of Old Witch's Ring. How to get this ring: a) as a starting gift; b) by dropping Sunlight Maggot into the small nest at the beginning of the Northern Undead Asylum, re-visited, and re-entering/reloading the area for item to appear. See "Dark Souls - saving Knight Solaire (pt1-2)" on how to get Sunlight Maggot.