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I have had a few folks ask if I would keep them up on this build . I had planed to do so on my F550 and mods but never got around to it . So to fill you in on what I have done sofar , I started with a Tarot 650 Ironman frame then when I ordered the motors DSY 5208 360kv. from Hobbyking.com they wouldnt fit on the 650 motormounts so I made some from 1/8" aluminum and that extended the arms out to 785mm . That gave me room to use 18X5.5 props from Tarot . As you can see in the pix I am useing a DJI NAZA M Lite and Hobbywing 40 amp ESC's . There is not much room on the center frame on the Tarot 650 so I ordered a Tarot 680 canopy and made a plate to mount the ESC's and other electronics as I get them . This plate gives me much more room on top and on bottom , and I think it looks much neater than a pile of wires on top . Ill post more pix as I go and maybe some video if I feel anything needs explaining .